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Electronic Patient Billing

Last Modified 2/1/99

ph (02) 6622 4453,
fax (02) 6622 3185
Northern Rivers Division of General Practice,
PO Box 519, LISMORE NSW 2480

The methods of payment are:

Manually:

a) Patient pays in full (cash or cheque) at the practice, then takes the receipt to a Medicare office for a refund of 85% of the Schedule fee.

(As an alternative to a patient visiting a Medicare office, there is a trial currently of Medicare kiosks in selected pharmacies, eg at Kyogle, comprising a computer touch-screen into which the patient enters bill information. It prints out a statement that the pharmacy posts into the HIC on behalf of the patient. On receipt of the statement, the HIC completes the processing of the claim and electronically transfers the payment into the patients bank account).

b) Patient does not pay, but takes account to a Medicare office (or uses a kiosk), with the HIC mailing a cheque to the patients address, the cheque being made payable to the practitioner. The patient must get the cheque to the practice somehow.

c) Patient does not pay, the practice instead bulk-bills. The patient signs a voucher which the practice batches with other vouchers and posts to the HIC for payment.

Electronically

using a standard telephone line at the practice:

d) Same as (a), patient pays in full, but uses an EFTPOS terminal in the practice to electronically transfer funds from their bank account directly into the practitioners/practices bank account. The patient then takes the receipt to a Medicare office for a refund of 85% of the Schedule fee.

Example systems, these are all small machines similar to those seen in shops, eg Woolworths, petrol stations etc.:

  • Optus HealthPoint with Commonwealth Bank Comm2000 system included
  • Commonwealth Bank Comm2000
  • National Australia Bank Flexipay.
These systems need a dedicated phone line, or at least one that is in little use, eg a dedicated fax or modem phone line that already exists in the practice, to enable real-time or online processing, that is, the patient being able to pay their bill by EFTPOS at any time during the day.

e) Same as (c), the practice bulk-bills, but submits claims to HIC electronically using the HIC Medclaims system.

Example systems:

  • Optus HealthPoint only, a small machine similar to those seen in shops, eg Woolworths, petrol stations etc.;
  • Numerous practice management computer programs (software) that includes the Medclaims function, eg:
  • PracSoft by Harvest Software Solutions, Brisbane.
  • MediDesk by MIMS Data Systems, Canberra.
These programs are used on a personal computer in the practice. They use a modem to connect into the Medclaims system via a standard telephone line, which does not need to be a dedicated line as it can be done anytime, 24hours/day 7days/week, as the processing is done in batches.

  • An automatically-printed Summary sheet is posted manually to the HIC to validate the electronic claim.
  • A one-off payment of $500 is made by the HIC to a practice that participates in the Medclaims system.
  • If the practice uses electronic prescription writing, then the script pads required for it are free for Medclaims participating practices (normally $150/10,000 script sheets).
  • There are no transmission costs to the practice, these are paid by the HIC to the telecommunications company engaged to link the practice to the HIC.
  • The practice must pay for the computer equipment (hardware and software) that has the Medclaims function.
  • There is no facility available at the moment for non-bulk-bill patients to electronically claim Medicare from anywhere. Systems to enable patients to claim Medicare whilst at a practice are either being trialled or are envisioned. More electronic services are envisioned in the near future.

Electronic Medicare Claims using Medclaims

1. (Source: Dr V Das, GP Kyogle, conversation with MD early Dec 98).

For a country practice like Kyogle, manual processing takes from 1-4 weeks, perhaps 6 weeks. Electronic is supposed to take two working days, but actually takes about one week (a summary paper record of electronically submitted claims must be posted to the HIC for their verification purposes before funds are electronically transferred into the practitioner/practice bank account, so allowance must be made for the posting time to Sydney).

2. (Source: 1. Pamela Lubrano, Electronic Commerce NSW/ACT, HIC, ph conversation with MD 8/12/98. 2. Info Pack MEDCLAIMS Pamela posted to NRDGP).

NRDGP has the Info Pack MEDCLAIMS and video Medclaims: is your practice switched on? (11 mins) about the range of electronic services available. The video may be borrowed and copies of the Info Pack material are available, just contact NRDGP.

MedClaims allows only for direct-bill (bulk-billing) patients. The ACT Coordinated Care trial is trialling Medicare claims for non-bulk-billed patients. There are a range of electronic services that Medicare will be providing in the future.

Medclaims Approved Software Suppliers List available from NRDGP or HIC.

Medclaims Approved Communication Suppliers List available from NRDGP or HIC.

To use Medclaims:

For general computer software that includes the Medclaims function:
Practice needsExample
computerany standard pc
modemany standard modem
phone lineany phone line
approved software (computer program) for the computerPracSoft, or MediDesk
approved communications supplierTelstra Multimedia, or Optus Network
computer system configured for use by practicecomputer-literate staffer, or IM/IT Program Officer
staff trained in general computer usageWindows and PracSoft Billing function

alternatively, can use a dedicated system, eg Optus HealthPoint: HealthPoint Medicare-card-swipe unit
(costs $500 up front, no fees for 1 year, thereafter $20/month)
Practice needsExample
phone lineany phone line
installation and configuring unitOptus staff
staff trained in terminal usageOptus staff
(minimal required, much less than the computer option, as HealthPoint is a self-contained system).


EFTPOS

OPTUS HealthPoint

(Source: Optus Health Solutions flyer and booklet in MEDCLAIMS Info Pack from Pamela Lubrano).

Brochure available from NRDGP, HIC or Optus.

  • HealthPoint allows a practice to use Medclaims, plus other options.
  • does Medclaims
  • DVA cards recognised so can process DVA
  • Immunisation can be processed, in participating states.
  • Pathology and Radiology results can be electronically obtained (downloaded)
  • blurb sheet says will interface with a computer.
  • f you choose to also sign up as a Commonwealth Bank Comm2000 EFTPOS terminal (Bank charges a fee, see below), then it does standard EFTPOS at the practice Front Desk for paying patients to direct debit their bank accounts (debit card) or for them to use their credit cards.
Optus supply the HealthPoint System comprising the Medicare card-swipe unit plus a Lexmark laser printer, in return for paying $500, being the amount the HIC will pay the practice for using Medclaims. That is, it costs $500 upfront in effect for the lease of a Medicare card-swipe unit and a laser printer, and twelve months usage. After that it costs $20/month ($240/yr). The other practice costs are only for the use of paper in the printer, and laser printer running costs (toner etc).

If the HealthPoint unit is also set up as a Commonwealth Bank EFTPOS terminal (using Comm2000), patients with a debit, credit or charge card can pay their bill (just like shopping at Woolworths or the local petrol station).

HealthPoint can be an alternative to buying a computer in order to use Medclaims. There will be minimal training and staff time needed to run the system, as opposed to a computer which the staff must learn to use and maintain. It may be seen as a minimal setup for electronic billing, and an attractive alternative for practices not wishing to go the full computerisation path.

The downside is that the potential benefits of a computer for general administrative management are not available. If a practice is envisioning practice management and clinical computerisation, then the HealthPoint system is probably no the best path to take. If a practice wants an EFTPOS terminal, then there are a range of options available, eg Commonwealth Bank Comm2000 system or National Australia Bank Flexipay system.

An alternative may be to install both the HealthPoint and a computer. Then the laser printer can be used for the computer (a laser printer costs about $500 minimum for a small capacity unit, but generally about the $1000 mark in round figures). HealthPoint however costs $20/month after the first year. This requires further research regarding relative cost advantages.

Mentors as at April 1999:

Solo-GP practices
Yamba Medical Centre
Dr David HOPE
YAMBA
ph 6646-2085 solo-GP
Got Healthpoint late 98. Like it very much - saves work and quicker payment.

Dr West's Surgery
Dr David WEST CASINO
ph 6662 1166
solo-GP
Got Healtpoint in April 99, will start using it in May 99.

Multi-GP practices

Lennox Head Medical Centre
Drs Leanne Corbett, Gerry Hughes, Chris Mitchell, Susan Page, Ann Staughton, Robert Watson.
Admin: David Sandercock (Manager).
Got Healthpoint about Feb 99.

Commonwealth Bank Comm2000 EFTPOS

(Source: 1. Commonwealth Bank, Lismore staff, 2. Info Pack Comm2000. Which banks EFTPOS unit helps your business grow faster? [valid as at 9/97], 3. Brochure Comm2000. Increase your business - become an EFTPOS and credit card merchant [valid as at 10/97])

  • free installation, very small unit taking up little space.
  • Merchant Service Fee is 0-4% of transactions, plus $25/month access fee.
  • 24-hour Customer Help Desk.
  • accepts all major debit cards (cheque or savings account).
  • Mastercard, Visa, Bankcard credit cards.
  • American Express, Diners, JCB charge cards.
  • call costs paid by the Bank.

Known Users in NRDGP
Alstonville Clinic. A Dr and a receptionist both seemed very happy with it. Dr said profitable, receptionist said saves a lot of time in paperwork etc.)

National Australia Bank FlexiPay EFTPOS

Brochure available from NRDGP, National Bank. Similar arrangements as Commonwealth Banks Comm2000.

State Bank EFTPOS

Similar arrangements as Commonwealth Banks Comm2000.

Known Users in NRDGP
Dr Cathryn Amey, Riverside Family Practice, Casino.

Personal Computer (PC) programs (software)

See appropriate NRDGP IM/IT Fact Sheets, extracts from brochures etc, available from NRDGP. Also a demonstration of software NRDGP IM/IT Program has available currently can be arranged, viz:
  • PracSoft
  • MediDesk.

Disclaimer

Disclaimer: Information in this Fact Sheet is believed to be true and correct at the update, however changes in circumstances, or the discovery of facts not previously known, may impact upon its accuracy. The Northern Rivers Division of General Practice, Members and staff will not, in any event, be liable to any organisation or person at all, whether in negligence or otherwise, for anything stated or omitted herein. This Fact Sheet contains summary information of a general nature, and is provided to GPs and practices for orientation purposes in relation to the NRDGP Information Management/Information Technology Program. Readers should conduct their own research to confirm information and opinions stated in this Fact Sheet.

Mark Dowling, Program Officer, Information Management/Information Technology Program



Discussion
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Electronic Patient Billing
electronic billing for medical supplies

stephanie, stephanie1023@bigplanet.com
Posted 28/6/00 4:14 AM


do you have software that can be used for electronic billing of medical supplies?



Arlene Coleman, acole@bellatlantic.net
Posted 25/8/2000 10:25 AM


Please forward information regarding electronic billing for medical supplies, medical claims administration on the internet and Electronic patient billing.

Please forward info as soon as possible..I am very interested......Thank You



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GEETHA S., g2sunthi@hewitt.com
Posted 8/4/00 1:59 PM


I want to introduce this type of system to my country, Singapore. Please send me more information.



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Adrian Clarke, data@cablenett.net
Posted 27/6/99 9:14 AM


I want to introduce this type of system to my country, Trinidad and Tobago and to the Caribbean.
Pleases send me more info.
Adrian



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Dr Christopher Cleary, CC@bmfp.com.au
Posted 21/10/2000 11:18 AM


C/- Blue Mountains Family Practice
134b Great Western Hwy, Blaxland NSW 2774

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Dr Heather Stewart, HeatherS@bmfp.com.au
Posted 21/10/2000 11:18 AM


C/- Blue Mountains Family Practice
134b Great Western Hwy, Blaxland NSW 2774

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Dr Constino Fattore, dino@one.net.au
Posted 21/10/2000 11:17 AM


C/- Blue Mountains Family Practice
134b Great Western Hwy, Blaxland NSW 2774

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